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Fusion vs eternal

I keep hearing different stories about fusion. Some people say its a stolen eternal formula and some people say the original creator of eternal took his recipe and created fusion after losing control of eternal. I know some of this rumors n some of it is true. I personally love fusion and feel it is brighter n goes in the skin easier. Although fusion is still a newer ink, I'm curious if anyone has had any issues or can elaborate of the origin of this ink. Mike what's your ink preference?


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Don, You should move or attempt to change your clientele base. I commented a while ago about how much I love Fusion. Still do! I have added more Eternal colors to my palate. Honestly the two brands work into the skin almost identical to one another. I must say the M-Series Mike and Mario put together is an awesome addition to my arsenal. A quick example of a color I love from eternal is Wild Orchid. There is not anything quite like it from Fusion. Mix and match from the ink companies you like best. At the end of the day the quality you produce with these inks is what matters.

~Justin
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This ink does not stand the test of time. And is not a good pigment. To use with large fields of color I'm not impressed. The tattoos I've seen that have been done start a drastic fallout in a year. Bye no means do I recommend fusion . Lately elictric ink has shown some promise with certain colors as far a new inks. But I'm going to stick with mainly eternal star bright and intenze. But I have noticed I increase in reactions from some of the intenze. But would have to say eternal has Been good to me and my crew but something about certain star bright colors they just last.
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I also found Formula 51. Very impressed with the density and the way it maintains.
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all inks mentioned are good,check out crazy horse color inks.
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Adam Everett has been making ink for like 17+ years. He started one company and made it successful. He went into buisness with eternal and he created eternal ink from nothing with tramp backing him. It was all him for years. There was a falling out on changing stuff up. and they parted ways. Adam as the original creator started his own ink company and did things the way he always knew and it worked out great. Fusion and Eternal are both great companies but they aren't stoles recipes... read the ingredients for one Eternal has glycerin. ..Fusion doesn't...for two they are based and made totally diffrent.. its a personal preference.
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I use both Eternal and Fusion. When I started tattooing, my mentor told me the ONLY three inks I should be using are Eternal, Fusion, and Intenze. So, I bought a bottle of Eternal Lining Black and a bottle of their white. Then I ordered the 25 basic color pack from Fusion. Later I added a set of the zombie colors by Eternal. Hands down, I will only line with Eternal. It's the only ink that all of the artists I know line with. Their white is the absolute best too. As for colors, both brands work pretty well. I still have to try some Intenze. I think my next purchase will be the pastel set Eternal put together.
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I also recently purchased some Formula 51 ink. I have to say it went in just as easy as my Fusion and Eternal colors. Their bright Matrix green went in real easy. Also am really digging the color they have called Raisen Hell. They have some great dark muted colors. I haven't had any healed work come back in yet which will be the ultimate test. Just thought I would throw their name out there.

~Justin
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I keep kuro sumi on hand incase i have to match up work from others.
I use star brite lining black for all my linework and washes...it works well for me
I also have a bottle of fushion black that i bough but havent felt the need to fix what aint broken
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I bought the full line of fusion an think they are great. Recently alot of my colors have thickened. In my opinion i really like the power colors and like to mix them down with white or yellow to get the desired lighter color. I find that the lighter blues are too heavy and like to dry out more and are more dificult to put in the skin. I havent used all of eternals colors but i have been using more of them. I like both companys and their products but personal preferance is what matters. And i have to mention starbright they are hands down a company thats been around for the test of time. Thats because they still rock when it comes to great pigments/inks. Canarry Yellow is still my fav. Yellow they also have alot of other great colors. I think you are good with any one of the three or better yet a combination of the colors from each company that works best for you.
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Ever since Fusion went mainstream the customer service has dropped. I rarely get a reply from emails from them. Also, my local ink supplier has tried to get them as one of his products but Fusion wont give him the time of day. I think its BS. This industry is made up of the little guy and when you get to corporate its time to fuck off. On the other hand eternal is always consistent and I can even talk to Tramp if i want to. They also support smaller tattoo suppliers. FUCK YOU FUSION!
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Man why do people Talk Shit soo much. These forums should just be a Poll or Survey when people ask about which inks is better because people get way off subject.

Who cares about who ink it is or whole stole what.

So should we talk Shit about Cars or Cell Phones. No one really does talk shit about it saying Hey Apple stole the Idea from Black Berry. But Apple made a better phone and Black Berry went to shit.

Everyone takes ideas from other people, even have stolen ideas from other companies. Its like Rotary Machines, Now every Coil Machine Builder is making a Rotary Machine.

But ultimately this will help this Great Industry. The more we open the industry up the better the Tech and Better the Tattoos

Dont Hate Appreciate!!!!
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You should always trust the creator of the ink. The man that these companies hire to actually formulate and mix the ink. Wherever he is, his formula is.
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I was originally using Eternal, i bought the full 1oz. set and loved it. Its a very good ink. When i found Fusion and saw how bright the colors were coming out on skin and hearing that it is the best, i had to try it. So i ultimately bought a full set and a half and i absolutely love it. I get a lot of compliments on how bright the ink is on myself and my customers! Only gripe i have about Fusion is they didn't send me my dam stickers with my last full set order, grrrr...lol, wheres my dam stickers!! ha....And the girl at customer service wasn't real quick to assist me with something easy that i needed i had to talk to her for a min to get her on the same page, after that she didn't do what she said she would do so i was a little surprised!! Fusion rulez though, Eternal is second, w-more colors, and i really do well with Alla Prima as well, goes in the skin real nice, vibrant, and heals well and stays..Mike, your a rad mofo brotha!! Love your work..
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Long Time Lurker, making my first post here.

From a client/collector standpoint, I was totally stoked on how the fuzion pigments in my tattoo healed.

For 98 percent of my tattoos, intenze pigments were used. The colors always "lightened" after healing. Compared to the in the bottle appearance, and fresh application.

With the new fusion pigment tattoo. That "lightening" did not happen. The color in the bottle was exactly what the healed tattoo looked like. Even after a few months and some rare PNW sun exposure, The tattoo looks as good as the day it was done.

Just my $.02
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Long time Starbrite guy. Turned to a few eternal inks. Now giving Fusion a try. As stated earlier, some pigments dry QUICK in the tube and I find myself flushing the tube a bit more than with Starbrite. Fusion has healed quicker and so far brighter. Only time will tell with the length of time the pigment holds.

Guess I got hacked with the stickers? ?? Waverly inks gives the most love so far with purchases
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Hey,
I have a huge school project that I need to do. The project is about tattoos. The problem I have though is that I have to have questionnaires filled out. I have sent out roughly 100 but only two people have actually responded and I need to hand in the filled in questionnaires next week Monday. If you could please help me I would be so grateful.
There are two different surveys, the first one is for people who have tattoos, the second is for tattoo artists:
The one for people with tattoos is: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/6SJQLBG
The second one for tattoo artists is: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/6XJ9BXG
Please can you fill it out for me, it should only take 2 minutes of your time.
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I work with Fusion and Eternal Ink. This year I met a guy in the convention in Warsaw. He showed me his hand. His tattoo was so colorfull and beautiful as it was made yesterday. I asked him when did he made his tattoo? He said 7 years ago and he said to me..."This is FUSION Ink." Since then I mostly use Fusion ink and it is more bighter and more intense color then other.
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