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Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Dollamite from IP: 70.253.236.50 on 05/06/09
Waco, Tx USA

I know you said you use strait 7 mags and curved 15 mags for most all of your color work, with long taper individual needles...But do you prefer standard size or bug-pin size individual needles. Thanks for your time. Josh.



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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.95.169.167 on 05/10/09
northridge

As of recently i have been using 17 mag bug pins that fit in a 15 standard tube.works pretty good allows smoother blends.as for smaller needle groupings im still on long taper.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by sarah from IP: 87.103.97.117 on 05/13/09
canada

hey mike
do you use texture needles to pack color?

thanks


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.95.169.167 on 05/14/09
northridge

ive tried em,but no,no texture for me.just sounds like more abuse to the skin,regular needles do the job just fine.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by denis_tattoo@yahoo.it from IP: 121.121.48.227 on 05/20/09

hey MIKE, what BUG-PIN use..............000 #8, or 00 #10 ?
u buy premade or solder?
where is possible buy a good premade BUGPIN MAGNUM ROUD SHAPE?

U ARE THE BEST MAN................I HAVE YOUR BOOK AND WAIT THE DVD....................


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.95.169.167 on 05/21/09
northridge

the best needle place is Mithra,they have great bugpins and rounded edge all pre made,not sure what the size bugpin it is off the top of my head.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by brenda from IP: 87.103.26.77 on 05/30/09
london

hi mike
i have to say that im waiting for see you work in tattoo jam.
why you use long taper in your seven mag and not bug pin like in the 15 mag?
is because you use the 7 mag to get more solid color without blending?

thank you
hope see you the jam


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.95.169.167 on 06/04/09
northridge

the reason i dont is because i dont have them yet,this weekend im hoping to get some,i would probably start using them as long as they fit in the 7 mag tube nicely,so it would be a 9 mag bug pin that goes into a 7 mag tube.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by sarah from IP: 217.129.92.105 on 06/08/09
europe

heloo mike
i use a 11mag needle in a 7 mag tube,is fantastic.
dont you ever try this kind of bug pins?


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Orphan Irons from IP: 24.93.244.249 on 07/04/09
N Ridgeville Ohio 44039

The bug pin size should be #10 that u use Mike, if its two off (meaning takes 17 to fit 15..............Great needles super smooth blends


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.79.220.247 on 07/08/09
northridge

yeah i finally got the 9 mag bug pins from mithra,and i love them,they fit nice in the 7 mag tube,ill be using all bug pins for my mags from here on out.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by sarah from IP: 77.54.142.204 on 07/15/09
england

the bug pins you use is long or short taper?
thanks


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.95.169.167 on 07/15/09
northridge

I had to double check myself so i just looked on www.mithratattoo.com and they are #8 long taper bugpin needles.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by entropy from IP: 209.240.114.11 on 07/17/09

Hey Mike,

Im not sure if you can help me with this but I use mithra needles and disposable tubes. the tubes only come in 7-9 (lets use 7-9 mag for example) so if I use a 7 mag, the tube is really large for the needle and the ink pretty much just runs out. should I get the next size down? like a 5 mag tube? would that fit? This is especially bad with my liners. I ordered t7 needled with a 7-9 tube and the hole in the tbe is at least twice the diameter of the needle. Thanks for your input. ps. These are regular needles, not bugpins (I think I am going to get some bugpins but I want to make sure the sizing is right before I waste more money on tubes)


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by raul from IP: 77.54.10.1 on 07/17/09
mexico

hi mike,fantastic work yours ,for me the best
dont you think that bug pin make more skin resistance?
its hard to get in the skin with bug pin


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 76.95.169.167 on 07/20/09
northridge

As far as the mags they should fit really good in the tubes from mithra,there is only one size tube for each size needle grouping,for the liners they are like that,i use the 5 round and i put it in the 1-5 liner tube. And to answer the last one,there is people that say the bug pin is harder to get the ink in and slows you down,but i haven't found this to be entirely true,yes if i were doing tribal or something that i do want to pack it and move on then standard needles would do the trick and get it done faster,but with something you want smooth,the bug pins get it smoother faster with less effort,so in a sense that saves you time,from having to work on an area to smooth it out. but all in all you can still get it in there fast and solid with bug pins. One draw back to them is after 4 or 5 hours of tattooing chances are you need to replace the needle and put a new one in, because they dull out quicker.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by entropy from IP: 209.240.114.11 on 07/21/09
Canada

Thanks for the response Mike. It was a while ago that I got my mags from mithra and it looks like they added more options. I was having the biggest problem with my liners but I tried them (tight 7) in a 1-5 tube and they fit perfectly. I


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by entropy from IP: 209.240.114.11 on 07/21/09
Canada

Mithra doesnt seem to carry curved bugpins in a 17. Do you have to special order them or is it just because there site seems to be under construction. when I click on any curved bugpins it brings me to textured curved mags.


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by entropy from IP: 209.240.114.11 on 07/21/09
Canada

Mithra doesnt seem to carry curved bugpins in a 17. Do you have to special order them or is it just because there site seems to be under construction. when I click on any curved bugpins it brings me to textured curved mags.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Max from IP: 98.14.91.224 on 07/21/09

Mithra does have curved 17 mag bugpins and they're sweet! Not sure if they're on the website or not but just give them a call and order them


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by entropy from IP: 209.240.114.11 on 07/21/09
Canada

Mithra doesnt seem to carry curved bugpins in a 17. Do you have to special order them or is it just because there site seems to be under construction. when I click on any curved bugpins it brings me to textured curved mags.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by raul from IP: 93.108.15.11 on 07/21/09
mexico

mike is a honor talk with you.
about bug pins,they make small holes so deposit less ink,rigth?
and when in a tattoo you have a spot of solid color,you change for a tandard needle or you can make it with a bug pin(going a little more deep)?


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 72.134.35.17 on 07/21/09
northridge

Yeah they do make smaller holes which in theory would deposit less ink,but for this style they work really good.
Mithra has them,you have to call them,i dont think they are listed on the website yet,i called last week and they were all out,but going to get more very soon,they might have them now,just gotta check.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by kentsboots from IP: 24.22.82.98 on 08/20/09
Oregon USA

I was only using the bugpin mags for b&g, but since reading this a few weeks ago , started using them for color too, works like a charm with a little side to side motions instead of the old circular way I was used to.

Ever try a 7 bugpin for lining? i use them now inplace of my old 5 liner


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 98.148.179.10 on 08/22/09
northridge

Bug pin needles for lining is something i still havent tried,but recently got a couple boxes of them from mithra and im going to be trying them this week,i keep forgetting i have them.Im guessing they are going to work really good.ill give them a good try and post up what i think about them.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by kentsboots from IP: 98.246.13.23 on 08/26/09
oregon usa

they said today they are out of the 17 curved bugpins for another month


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by kentsboots from IP: 24.22.83.232 on 08/27/09
Oregon USA

doh, make that 15 curved bugpin mags... i was going to use the 15 in the 13 tube. not the 15 mag... so they are out of the 15... didnt ask about 17, got confused.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by mike d from IP: 98.148.179.10 on 08/31/09
northridge

Yeah it sucks they are all out of them right now,hopefully they get them soon,im starting to run out of them.I might have to get out the ol' needle makin kit and make some myself.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by entropy from IP: 209.240.114.11 on 09/03/09
canada

Needlejig.com has curved mag bugpins up to 17. I just got some and they seem no different from mithra needles.


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RE: Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by ASaucedo from IP: 216.175.84.129 on 09/17/09
Los Angeles

I use mithra needles regularly but I don't use the curved mags. Still, I get super nice blends with the regular long tapered 15, 25 and 45 mags. If I want an extra soft greywash I use 11 mag bugpins or 17 mag bugpins, I believe they're #8. If the machine's running quick and soft I never have a big problem with accidental edges plus it allows me to get into corners easily. Oh and the standard medium taper 9's and 15's are great for solid, solid color and blacks for traditional and the like.


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by "Dat BALBOA gurl" from IP: 76.202.184.203 on 11/01/10
Central Texas

U mention the greatness about the Bugpin mags, Well I was wondering 1 last thing do you prefer 1 stack, Double stack, or Weaved?


Oh yeah ... lol just to tell let u know.. I have you in my Next Year Planner do get work done.... I've been waitn for U & only U in particular to do my Portraits. So when I'm ready I will give you a call to make an appt. with you so I can head up your way when you are ready for me and I WILL be more than happy to make that Travel. As I Did to Travel to Detroit to get Tattooed by another of my Favorite Artist.


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Tono from IP: 109.153.207.177 on 12/22/10
England

Any different or special adjust in the machines to run the bug needles????


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by manchester4 from IP: 99.124.199.132 on 12/27/10
los angeles, ca, usa

I have to admit the bugpins are good but I also use for my regular mags the tatsoul brand and they're great especially with consistency. i just wished tatsoul would come out with the bugpins already! they're saying some time around middle of 2011. What other companies carry bugpins other than mithr?


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Anthony from IP: 68.112.68.211 on 01/11/11
Savannah tn.

Kingpin tattoo supply also has bugpins


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by hushtattoo from IP: 72.205.233.69 on 07/10/11
salina ks usa

bugpins are great but ive notice bending of the needles over short time if useing a back and forth motion.


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Brent from IP: 166.137.13.12 on 08/27/11
Moultrie ga USA

Well I've been reading all the post on the bugpins and what mythra is calling a #8 bugpin =25mm is truly a #10 bugpin =30mm
But my ? Is for mike. I've been looking for the bugpin needle brand elephant bugpin they stoped making them back years ago but I heard that they are making them again? I figured you would know if this is true


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Mahi from IP: 210.56.123.111 on 01/25/12
india

I have read all the form But i m confuse in one thing Where can i buy a best #10 long taper bug-pin needle . Mithra has making a best needle but they only make #8 bug-pin needle. If Mithra has a #10 needle then please send me a link of his site.......if any other best brand comparison with Mithra then also attach a link please........?


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Wickedkitty from IP: 209.237.78.163 on 01/27/12
Oregon

Mike....
Let me start by saying thanks... a while back u took the time to talk with me about stigma's .... i got some and have not looked back, and u have help me in other ways, Thank you.... Now on to Biz.
I took your advise and tryed bugpin's .... and yes now that all i use.... I'm want to get ahold of larger ones for bigger work, it would be a time saver!! I use them for everything... they do much less damage to the skin ... i feel?! So some big ones ....25 or 49 range mags or the eqivalant ... Any thoughts????
Thanks for being amazing!


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by shamborg from IP: 99.109.88.133 on 01/27/12

tatsoul just came out with #9 bugpjns and all the top bugpin guys are using them. I finally got my hands on them a week ago and they are fantastic. I can't say much more but to insist that you guys try em. I loved using the 17cm and 13cm. The curvature is just right which is a slight curve.


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RE:Bug-pins vs Standard mags

Posted by Wickedkitty from IP: 209.237.78.163 on 02/01/12
Oregon

Hey Mike!!
I posted some days ago about looking for larger needle grouping for bug pin Mags any thoughts????


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