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t tech

has any one used or seen these tubes its a company out of canada it has disposable cartridge with needles like hawk but much more inexpensive and the hawk cartridge works on them as well it has stainless tube with a disposable tip and needle if any one has any info or input please share


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GRIP NOT MACHINE. CHEYENNE IS DESIGNED AS A COSMETIC MACHINE NOT AS A TATTOO MACHINE.
SO YOU NEVER STERILIZED GRIPS BEFORE YOU STARTED WITH CHEYENNE?
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No I do not sterilize the hawk grip. I talked to our hygienic expert, he confirmed that it is ok if you change the cartridges and keep the grip clean with cleaning and disinfection solutions. My autoclave is no longer in action. It is the law in Austria that studios must be checked by an hygenic expert once a year.
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T tech has bugpins an other groupings now! Fuckin love it, I can't wait to get a hold of them. My prayers have been answered lol Sorry Mithra an TatSoul:( might never see ya again.

Has anyone used these yet? How do they compare? How tight are they?
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they're creative but the quality of the needles are not good. Had so many barbed needles and not consistent. Interesting concept but definitely lacking. Was not happy with them. I'll stick to my regular supply companies ie eikon, tatsoul, kingpn etc.
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Hi, rampart. We know you work for tatsoul. And we have not sold any single needle to you.
I do not know why that El Dugi mentions Tatsoul and Mithra. He does not work for t-tech. The message post by EI Dugi is not an AD of T-tech.

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I have see a lot of people hating in this product, but to me this company create something really original and with a great funtion for any tattoo artist, you can use this tubes with any machine, coil or rotary or even with conventional needless or cartridges. I think they should post more serious coments, the artist that use it already for the real people interesting in use it, and stop that fucking game using the page of a famous tattoo artist to advertise and have that stupid war trying to sell more. I will apreciate if someone post more info about quality of this product, not the people from diferents sides having a war for sell
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So the t-tech tips don`t have a rubber cardidge seal? Doesn't ruin the hawk motor in the length of time??? I consider to use the t-tech needles, but if they don't have any sealing, all the color and blood and everything can just enter the machine...? Or am i wrong with this?
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I recently tried a 9 round shader and a 7 curved magnum from ttech and thought they were a little awkward. The cartridges have some sort of spring inside to keep the needle connected to the needle bar. I had to turn up the voltage on my power supply because of it and caused my machine to sound differently. Im gonna try them out more by using up the ones I have left and hope to get better results because I really like the Idea of having less machines and still quickly change to different needle groupings.
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Oh and I didnt have a problem with ink going up the needle bar and onto the machine. I use coil machines.Not a 100% sure if the cartridges have a seal though to prevent ink from leaking from the back.I'll check tomorrow when I go to the shop.
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I mention them because that's all I actually use, an still use cause I broke my hawk. If they can compate then im on board. Stripped those lil fuckin Allen bolts! Do not un screw the rear of hawk machine with out taking out the allen it will sheer off the jack connection haha

Oh well still havnt got the bugpins, any one try them yet? Still curious. I've never had a single barbed needle yet nor have my coworkers as far as I know. One or 2 was soldered weird tho.

Coils do splatter up, check the bottom of your A Bar...
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T-Tech Needles are not sealed, and yes there is the potential of the ink and blood flowing back into the grip, and machine.

I found quickly that fluid can move quickly right through the cartridge. I emailed the company indicating that would love to see no 'flow back'. This was the response that I got, "We do not guarantee the ink will not go in to the grips. If you flip your machine upside down during tattooing for a long time the ink may go into the grip. It can leak ink from the back cap of the cartridge. There is not a watertight seal in our cartridge. We know our product. We suggest you sterilize your grip if the leak happens, or sterilize your grip after each using. We have not a plan to manufacture the needle cartridges same as Cheyenne hawk."

If that is the case the should have a disclaimer indicating the issue rather just saying, " Needle Cartridges are compatible the Cheyenne Hawk machines."
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I'm confused.......whats the final verdict? yay or nay on T Tech? Hawk cartridges are killin my pockets. I LOVE my Hawk though. Just wish it were a little more user friendly when it comes to cost.
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I've been using the T-techs consistently for several months now and couldn't be happier with the results. I DO NOT use them on a Hawk, nor do I personally (in my humble opinion) recommend doing so. They may fit and work in the Hawk, but Cheyenne has made it clear that this is not supported and will void your Hawk warranty. Any ink flow back issue I have had has been minimal, and still much less than when it happens with a standard coil/tube setup. I clean and autoclave the grips every client. It seems silly not do so, regardless of what system you choose.

I HAVE used hawk cartridges in my cartridge system when I needed a configuration not available from T-Tech. This works fine, but I'm finding it to be less and less of an issue as T-Tech releases new configurations. It's like x-mas every time they do! I feel the customer service could use some polishing, and there's a bit of a language barrier, but they have made every effort to correct ordering issues.

For me, the main advantage T-Tech has is versatility. If I find myself in a pinch at a show that doesn't have a Hawk supplier, I can easily switch back to plain disposables for my machines. Price has very little to do with my choice of product. I find Hawk to be too proprietary of a system for my needs in the somewhat isolated Midwest.
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I have used the ttech system personally for over 6 months. My boss has used them exclusively for as long. I like them, but I go by feel and sometime I just feel like a coil machine sometimes. Yeah, I only like the ttech with rotaries. They are spring loaded and give a traditional rotary (ie. Swiss, Neo, etc...) Some give which is exactly their real drawback versus coils, but with all the setup ease of a rotary. I always liked rotaries for shading, but not for lining. But with the ttech system, lining is smooth - like with a hawk. The precision like in makeup machines, but with industrial strength durability offered by the motors in the swiss and neo's. This is not an ad, to each his own. I am just offer one perspective.

We do sterilize the grip for each use. We discovered the difference w/o the membrane by filling the cartridge w/ water and holding upside down. The thing is you have to analyze the physics of how it'd travel up and then accumulate enough to come back down and make your own judgement. For me it's in the versatility of system. I like to use 3 or 4 setups for med to larger pieces and with the ttech that means 1 tube/grip versus 4 w/o ttech. So we sterilize with each use. To me it's nice at cleanup to toss retracted cartridges versuses loose needles. I don't like most disposable tubes except the expensive one's like tatsouls or those plastic & steel ones. So I still use steel when not using ttech, so it's less to clave when using ttech on more work. It's plastic, but it's a rigid, hard type plastic with nice guides on the mags that keep the grouping very precise. And the liners have a cool notch out making them kind of a cool mix between diamond and round w/ a bevel. They almost never spit or spray, not even if you crank your machine. It's super cool.
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forget to add why i don't like ttech with coil machines. because you have two springs working i feels way too soft unless you really crank up the machine. coil machines running like raped apes just doesn't work for me.
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when i first started seeing the hawks at con's, i was intrigued. for about 30 seconds. up until i heard you had to buy their needles, their grips, their tips. cut throat marketing right there. the only people i knew who were using them were the ones who got everything for free from cheyenne. immediately lost all interest, but also immediately wondered which would be the first company to offer the same product for cheaper. t tech seems to be the one.
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ttech u want to see what it can do with coil machines then check my facebook page out jasonstewarttattooartist and have a look at the last 20 tattoos I have done in my twenty eleven folder and my mobile uploads and u will see that using coil machine with the ttechs that the tattoos come out far smoother and a lot soldier with coils then if u were using rotary machines and with less trauma to skin ,,,,,,,see for yourselves and if anyone has in questions fill free to ask
Cheers jason stewart (Shinto tattoos Australia)
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i have orderd a few ttech modules to try them, i am a hawk user since two years, the first hawk had not enough stroke for my way of working, now i have change to the new thunder last mount and a love it, but now the problem for me is the new liner needles; the tip is much to big, and some kind of half flat, like a magnum tip, i loose a lot of precision, the first hawk liner modules was great, a small exactly sized tip around the round needles, thats why i want to try the ttech modules, they look good on the foto. in my opinion cheyenne made a big mistake with those new round tips, anyway , thats my opinion and many surely love them. for magnums i really love the original cheyenne modules.
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At our shop we are having a little bit of trouble with the cartridges coming loose with the t-tech grips...if anyone else has had this problem is there any solution ideas?
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^^^^^^^^



Hey bro,


When you insert the cartridges, be sure to turn them "clockwise" when you snap them in, and give them a pull to make sure they are set. They will also go in "counterclockwise", but they tend to have a habit of coming loose or popping out after a few minutes of tattooing... so be sure that you set them by twisting them "clockwise" when you make the connection...

take care...

Stephen Stacey
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