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NEEDLE THOW / OVERHANG

ok , say im using a machine with a 4mm throw. when its running i have it sat 2mm overhang and whern pressing back on the armature bar whilst it is running t still overhangs by 0.5 mm

basically what im trying to find out is whats the diffrence between having a long throw machine and short. what does how far it backs up in the tube have to do with anything?

im sorry if this sounds confusing .

i understand why a liner could have a longer throw but how would it affect colour / shading machines?


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RE:NEEDLE THOW / OVERHANG

...anybody?
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RE:NEEDLE THOW / OVERHANG

I've been wonderinvsame thing too fir quite some time an nobody has come up with much worth a damn.

In my mind an I'm talking out my ass but it seems to me like a car tire(which I've tripped on fir a while to haha) an it's size circumstance around(like stroke length) could affect speed an force if it's run with same power. As with spring an simple amount of time it take to force down into skin an back up to top. Short has less time, long has more time. More time makes force lessened as it travels, so it hits softer.

People been trying to tell me it "goes deeper with longer stroke an packs color solid" but that makes no sense to me, cause the bottom of where needle goes is the same regardless an you control that. So short stroke has to be faster in my mind. An hit mor consistently solid an harder, using the power more efficiently.

Just my 2 or too cents or non cents lol an Tho I could, an probably am dead wrong. But I like long stroke is all I know for whatever I do an seems to throw an flow ink better. AndI can see an control the needle easier too.


I think about this sorta shit all the time tho.
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Longer stroke means slower needle travel time with more torque at the same speed as a shorter stroke. Which makes it easier to put thicker particles into the skin. Obviously the longer the stroke the more needle hang you can put out as well. I personally dont like to hang any needle out of the edge of the tube when its retracted, because I feel if does not retract all the way out of the skin that needle is going to drag through the skin. Once the needle hits the skin it has more of a chance to slow down but the initial hit is harder with a longer stroke. I believe it would be the opposite if there was resistance against the motor the whole time like riding a bike in high gear up a hill, in which case a shorter stroke would have more torque but the speed would be faster as well. You can throw a baseball harder with a long arm then a short arm and you don't need to move your arm as fast to get the same speed with a longer arm. Any ways just my thoughts on it could be totally wrong. I think some people hang a little bit of needle out but not enough that it stays in the skin the whole time.
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