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Rotary or coils

Hey everybody. Been lurking around this message board for a loooong time. I am currently in the beginning of a (possible) tattoo career, and I am doing stuff at a shop, with the proper health and safety conditions as well as the BBP course taken. I started out with some Diau An machines bought in NY, but my mentor always hated my machines cause he said they weren't heavy enough.Now I played around with the Hawk for a bit (didn't actually tattoo with it, but I got so hooked up on the many positive factors already mentioned in the forum. My question is, should I get used to coils first and then turn to rotaries? I know my mentor hates rotaries, but to be honest he's not really much of a realism fan and I am. Any advice is welcome.


RE:Rotary or coils


Hey bro,

Nothing beats a perfectly tuned coil machine, however, keeping them perfectly tuned take a considerable amount of knowledge...
I don't recommend that you go straight to Rotaries until you have a really good understanding of coils. Learning the fundamental of coils is very important, and knowing the multitude of configurations will really help you to better understand the rotary's when you move on to them. There is a learning curve to rotaries that I think will be much more difficult without the knowledge of coils. there are so many different configurations of rotaries from no give, soft hit , hard hit, long,short stroke, ect,ect.. however you don't get the same feedback from them as you do with coils. Also, when you do finally move onto rotaries it takes about 50 hours to really get use to each one, so don't get too discouraged if you have a hard time with them at first. Personally I prefer rotaries to coils, simply because of their weight, consistency and low maintenance....As for your interest in realism. The machine does not make your realism any better or easier, that is up to the skills of the artist. The best artist in the world can create realism with both rotary as well as coil, so don't fall into the illusion that the machine makes the artist... to quote my favorite saying. "Amateurs worry about equipment, professionals worry about time, masters worry about light".. :)

hope that helps man, Take care.

Stephen Stacey
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RE:Rotary or coils

You really are Super, man :) All your tips around here are absolutely awesome. And yeah, I guess I will follow your advice and keep to coils for now. One of the guys in my shop got a rotary a week ago or so, and he's having a hard time getting consistent lines with it...It freaked me out a bit, cause he's one of the guys that can make huge single line passes without having to go back and now he looks like me when I started :D
He told me it's precisely the weight that takes a time to get used to. My Diau An machines are from Taiwan, and I got kinda put off when I saw that everything from China was shit, but I bought this in an actual tattoo supply shop in NY like I mentioned before.
For me I was put off coils because of the tuning, no one in the shop (including my mentor - hope he doesn't read this forum btw :D) knows how to tune my machine, so everyday for me is a trial and error situation and that really sucks. The machine is either throwing lightning bolts and almost blowing up at 5 volts or going almost like a Shader with a silent buzzing sound and almost no hit at 9 volts.. Can't seem to find a middle point.
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