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Hey , difference between the two is the needle diameter. each needle configuration has a certain diameter. standard needles are normally #12 diameter meaning the thickness of each needle in that grouping and bug-pins are a # 10 which means it is a smaller diameter. most tattooist run the standard #12 for most normal tattoos, but if you looking at doing more small precise work then you will go to bug-pins. like say fine line work. some of us only use bug-pins because we have worked many years learning the craft and are more into the detail of the tattoo,but if you are just starting out i would not use bug-pins. reason being they are smaller and can cut the skin a lot faster and they do not hold as much ink on the needle. think of it this way,like when painting a smaller brush holds less paint , but the more detail you can do, bigger brush more paint so more work can be done. but you really do have to be careful with bug-pins they are more intended for the guys that know how to judge the skin and read the needle .as far as the number when you order either one, companies normally list all them the same way ,but they normally list the needle size first. or in the needle grouping number sequence some where. hope this helps

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