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Hi Mate, I have been using the neotat sporadically for the past year and I am not a big fan of them. I personally find them to have no give, and they dont seem to handle the larger groupings as well as other machines. I dont have any trouble with them in smaller tattoo's, but it did take me quite a while to get my work consistent with them. I find it very comfortable to line with though, but I am a fineline artist so I dont know how it would go with bigger, bolder lines. It was a great place to start using rotaries as it wasnt too expensive, but I am now looking at something more versatile and after speaking in depth with a lot of brilliant artists, will be purchasing a gen 7 swashie and stigma. I have both the long throw and the short throw neotats and i will still keep them and possibly use them occasionally, but I would never have it as my first choice

thank you for your help
im thinking in buy the short stroke,they say that the machine is less powerfull than the long stroke,do you note this?